10 E ico Pilato amwipwishe ati: “Bushe taulefwaya ukunjasuka? Bushe tawaishiba ukuti nalikwata amaka ya kukukakula, nalikwata na maka ya kukwipaya?”* 11 Yesu amwaswike ati: “Te kuti ukwate amaka pali ine, kano bakupeela fye ayo maka ukufuma ku muulu. E mulandu wine uumpeele mu minwe yobe akwatile ulubembu ulukalamba sana.”